Next you'll be saying Father Christmas doesn't exist!

I still disagree with you statement that Tikanis has an axe to grind
Here's a common definition of the phrase
"To have a grievance with someone, especially where one feels the need to seek damaging retribution.

The phrase probably originates from the act of sharpening an axe with a grinding wheel, with the intent (in this definition) to get revenge on someone by maiming or killing them. " Now I'm sure that is not his intention. Again, I say Tikanis does not propose exacting any form of retribution ( although some of the commentators may have that intention with their boycott sentiments).

Tikanis is just trying ( along with many others ) to try and get the Greek Government to take heed of its own laws and enforce them.


You wrote:
"Please read my first post again. I said "Your motives may be of the highest order but you have chosen the wrong site to promote your cause". Please explain how this is "tantamout to inciting censorship"?"
Because you appear to be laying down the law that such posts shouldn't be allowed on here.

Nowhere have you said you agree with the sentiment - in fact on another thread it would appear that you definitely don't agree.

As for my last sentence, I stand by it, Maybe I should have clarified it by stating lots of sites don't recommend driving on Crete. but then again, none of the advice in that respect suggests a 'boycott'

As it would appear that you and I have hi-jacked this thread, I would suggest we hand it back to others to comment.

By the way Tikanis, I did sign the petition!

Of course it's wrong to kill an unwanted cat!
The humane course of action is to try and find a home for it.
Or perhaps you take the view that animal life is cheap?

As for abortions, it's a whole different ball game - there maybe personal or medical reasons for carrying out this act.
There does, however seem to be an alarming 'mistake rectifying' reason behind the younger generation's reasons for aquiring an abortion.

I hardly think Tikanis is grinding an axe, rather he is making reasonable request for like-minded individuals to make their voices heard.
There is on each keyboard the ability to ignore posts such as these if you don't agree with the sentiments - however to try and denigrate the post and suggesting it has no place on here is tantamount to inciting censorship.
I'm sure readers of this forum are intelligent enough to form their own opinions of its validity or worth and choose whether to follow it up or ignore it.
Rule 6 for this forum states:-
6. Any message which will be considered inappropriate for the "Explore Crete" forums, will be removed by the Administrator or the Moderators without a warning.

As this hasn't happened, then one must assume the site owners are happy to let it live on.

As for your latest post, I hope that was tongue in cheek - are you honestly suggesting this site would be over run with items such as that . I've not seen them raised on any other Crete site.
Actually, that last advice has been aired on a lot of sites and is a cause of concern to tourists from the upper european countries who expect similar driving standards to their own - even more so to the first time UK tourist!

John,
You wrote
"You have abused the site owners hospitality by asking readers to sign a petition where people are saying that they will not visit Crete until the situation changes"
Surely it is the Site Owner's responsibility to comment on the validity of the post?

I feel you have taken that out of context in order to denigrate Tikanis' message.
Those comments were personal comments in response to the petition and in no way is promoted in the aims of the petition as posted by Tikanis.
Actually that view of boycotting Greece because of the treatment of animals is not just limited to that petition, you'll find similar statements on various other sites.
Tourists need to be aware that Crete, along with many other Mediteranean countries, can reveal a disturbing site to it.

John,
So you're willing to ignore the all too frequent ugly/sometimes needless deaths of animals in order to protect the tourism trade?
Deaths that tourists will see and adversely comment upon, seems a strange logic there?

Try:
www.infocrete.com/vote/autorank.html
You should find something of interest to you amongst the 100 sites listed.

http://www.interkrit...g/iraklion/map/
http://www.hot-maps....ion/homeen.html

Anybody looked into buying a car on the Greek mainland and then bringing it into Crete?
Just wondering out loud as I noticed Items over there ( TVs etc, were a lot cheaper than on the Island.
regards
David

And just why should holiday/2nd home owners pay for the excesses of the greek nationals who caused all the damage?
If they're going to apply a tax to pay for reparations, then it it should apply to everyone, not be discriminatory as this tax so blatantly is!

Actually, the credit crunch is good for me.
Glenda has decreed the only expenditure on the next visit will be on building a protective fence at the end of the garden to stop us falling down the cliff side, so hooray, we can enjoy the island a bit more instead of more DIY.
Coming out April 5th for a fortnight and then again in September and again over Xmas and the new Year.

regards
David

Wim,
Using your Greek keyboard doesn't help me - all I see in your messages are little square boxes and I'm blowed if I'm going to waste time trying to work out how to read them properly.
As this is a mainly English speaking board, I see no reason for it - especially considering how many non registered viewers look at this site.

A bit melodramatic weren't it?
Not really sure i saw a face in that rock formation, though.