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#41 Wim

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Posted 04 July 2007 - 11:05 PM

Yes, this surely is good news, also for the people of Kalamata.

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 06:59 PM

Please enjoy a Hollywood fantasy production of the Greek Ministry of Shipping about Timbaki Port. It's the latest and greatest animation including Gladiator style of music. The thing is that we can believe that it may attract containers & pollution and drive the tourists away!!! The difficult part to believe is who on earth will come and park his expensive boat next to the containers. What a joke!!! It's a shame the European Union is giving money to Greece to waste it in such crap animation productions of a megalomaniac minister's fantassy. God knows what the ministry will create next to the containers to convince the people to accept it. I don't know about you but I would like to see some water slides.

http://info.yen.gr/g...p?g2_itemId=442

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Posted 26 July 2007 - 12:21 AM

My God, Kefalonides is a megalomanic ursurpator.

Actualy Ton, I think the music fits the unholy plan. Its a sad noise without conviction written in D minor.

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Posted 26 July 2007 - 09:37 AM

Actually the music fits to the latest movie of Troja with Bratt Pit and all but this time will not be the Greek ships going to destroy Troya but the Chinese ships coming to destroy South Crete!!!!

Perhaps this new YEN's animation movie together with the latest 300 movie of leonidas of Sparta will qualify for an Oscar!!!Who knows?

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Posted 26 July 2007 - 11:33 PM

I am very confident that nothing will ever happen. Seeing that during summer months our local community is not able to guarantee electricity and water supply, I really feel that I have nothing to fear from these plans for a harbour. If you have to stop work for several hours every day due to lack of electricity I recon we won't see any harbour being built in this century...



Maybe somebody along the road will start thinking that it would be better first to fix whatever is to be fixed in ordinary supplies such as electricity and water.



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Posted 27 July 2007 - 10:23 AM

Love that comment B)
Din have you ever been thinking of buying a little generator? This one offers 1.2 Kw and that's enough to keep the fridge cold, (en)lighten your desk and keep your pc soaring.

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Posted 27 July 2007 - 10:38 AM

Wim don't give her now ideas about noisy generators!! She is already in trouble with her neighbors :blush:

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Posted 27 July 2007 - 09:37 PM

He! That would be a great revenge for his letting 3 'weed'-trees grow up to cover my little view of the sea from the terrace!



WROOOM WROOOOOOOMMMMMMMM WROOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMM B)



Oh, sorry, we lost the thread again, didn't we? :blush:

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Posted 28 July 2007 - 05:44 PM

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Posted 28 July 2007 - 09:24 PM

The latest is that the Minister is asking the local authorities to decide until September whether they want to have or not the container port. If not then he indicated that the investment/invasion of the chinese will be moved to kalamata so politically he does not see a defeat.
The Minister accepted that indeed the container port will effect the environment but he reitarated his old story that the advantages will outnumber the disandvantages. Yeah right!!!! ;)

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Posted 07 August 2007 - 04:25 PM

Here is the latest about the port:

Most likely a local referendum will take place by September 2007.

The Ministry is planning to send out invitations in September to find potential investors who would like to build the container port approximately 1600 meters from Aghia Galini.

The Minister declares that all necessary studies about the environment will be made as needed by September.

There has been a strong opposition by Dimos Lampis (Aghia galini) so far opposing totally the container port.

So far two political parties have declared their opposition to the creation of the port (KKE and Sinaspismos). PASOK is split. Some PASOK representatives have declared that they are opposing the port and some are not taking sides claiming that more studies are necessary before they can decide.

The studies which were made by Metsovio (Athens technical school) this year appear to be incoclusive and very basic. In fact they are admitting in their report that more studies are necessary because the port will have some reversible and some ireversible affects to the social economic life of the people and to the environment.

The Minister has declared that even if the local people deny him the port in Timbaki he will not see this as a political defeat.


Kirie eleison !!!!

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Posted 11 August 2007 - 03:39 PM

According to an article published in yesterday's National paper 'ELRFTHEROTYPIA' a study conducted by the National Technical School of Herakion concludes that the port planned by Kefalogiannis in Timbaki will only bring irreversible catastrophy to the environment. It also concluded that the local community will not benefit economically from such an industrial/container port.


http://www.enet.gr/o...112,id=40588520

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Posted 17 September 2007 - 09:18 PM

Just got from a friend, working at LLoyds Register, an article in "Newsfront" (a newspaper for publishing news concerning the shipbuilding industry):

"Crete's Iraklion Port Authority has started the tendering process for the
development of infrastructure and installations at the Cretan port of Timbaki.
Considerable interest has been expressed in the development of a privately-operated
container transhipment terminal at Timbaki, with Chinese interests already having
inspected the region from the ground and from the air. The Iraklion port authority
notified the European Commission (EC) on September 6 that a call will soon go out
for 'letters of intent' for the project which has a budget of Euro 800m to Euro 1bn."

NEWSFRONT 14 September 2007 Vol. 8 / No. 34

The whole stuff is not finished yet.... :-(


-> 6087 <- http://www.petitiono...e/petition.html


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Posted 18 September 2007 - 05:43 PM

Link to the Parliamentary questions of the European Parliament

Don't forget to click the answers button on the top right

The questions and the answers are from October and December 2006.

But still, the Greek authorities have to answer to the ecological point as mentioned in the answer of Mrs H&uuml;bner on behalf of the Commission.

The word that is not readable = Hubner with an umlaut on the u. What's wrong with the server's settings Yannis? :D

Now that we know who is handling the case in the European Parliament we can probably put her under pressure?

This is the link to a German site with the same topic. If you speak German it's great stuff to read. A pity though that the topic has been shut down due to some heart attacks :o


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Posted 19 September 2007 - 12:26 PM

Good News ???

Just found in kretaforum.eu:

Kefalogiannis is not anymore in the new goverment:

http://www.imerisia.....2&pubid=332062

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Posted 19 September 2007 - 08:43 PM

Say, CJ



Can you tell us a bit more about yourself"

You are a member but with no profile. We love to know who's talking.



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Posted 20 September 2007 - 08:58 AM

Wim, this is not the right thread for this discussion, try to stick to the subject, will you? :P

Besides, everybody know cjmeyer, don't they? <_<

Oh, and I wanted to add that I think it is GREAT news! Next minister in line will think twice before jepardizing his position with foolish suggestions like the containerharbour in Timbaki, I HOPE!

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Posted 23 September 2007 - 01:33 PM

<_< :( :P :o :)



Just mailed a question to the European Parliament. Since you all read my link to the Parliamentary questions I need not to mention where it was about.



I asked if there was anything known to the parliament about the outcome of the surveys and if they knew about the Port Authorities tender and the miserable communication between the Greek parliament and the Cretan population involved.




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Posted 19 November 2007 - 05:42 PM

According to latest article from Patris :
http://www.patris.gr...7788808652ea071

The Autonomus Engineers of Eastern Crete revealed yesterday that alll along the Greek Goverment YEN together with the Greek YPEHODE were planning a container port in Timbaki to only serve the international transpor industry. Nothing else!! No touristic marinas (that idea came later to passify the people of Aghia Galini, no touristic or commercial passenger boats to connect the area with other parts of the world, no plans for the farmers to export their goods). In other words the original plan aimed for a small container hub which would only serve and profit the very few!!!! I guess we knew all along about this!! However the truth always hearts.
The same article also mentions the City of Ierapetra which from the first moment acted smartly by immediately rejecting the possibility of having the port near her door 3 years ago when was asked to be a cndidate for the container port.
So....At the moment this project is dormant and it seems the Greek Ministry YEN is currently keeping a low profile strategy without making any recent anouncements in regards to its future. The YEN has more headaches by trying to privitize the ports of Pireaus and Thessaloniki.
The fact that the planned port in Timbaki is bordering with Natura protects it somehow from the Industrial sharks. The island of Gavdopoula however might eventually come back on the table and it is increasingly looking voulnerable.
Kyrie eleison!!!

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 04:49 PM

Furthermore today from Patris:
http://www.patris.gr...es/122091/65837

The National Greek planning for Projects in Greece makes reference (in its recent Project planning publication page 39) to the container port without specifying location. They merely refer to the future location of the container port to be made somewhere in South or Southeastern Crete. The name Timbaki does not appear anymore in the future planning. Could it be good news? perhaps !!! Mrs Schoinaraki complained though that the future port for South Crete has been planned all along and strictly as a closed type container port and is in contradiction with what the Greek YEN Ministry had been promissing.
Hundreds of thousands of Euros have been so far waisted by the YEN for studies and videos which in advance knew are not in line with the real planning of YPEHODE.

Kyrie Eleison****What are we gonna hear next?