- Crete Forums
- → Assim's Content
There have been 40 items by Assim (Search limited from 28-February 19)
I bought my Motorbike over from the UK and re-registered it. The cost depends on the new value of the vehicle. As for the complexity, I can't help you there I just got my lawyer to sort it out.
It cost me 1,200€ and the bikes worth about 12,000€ (the equvilent new models are about 25'000€) so it worked out at about 5% of the price of a new one or 10% of its insured value. For me that was cheaper than selling it and trying to find something simular in Greece.
Well said Wim. Additionally I would like to add that Asim's economic scenario does not work in Greece. This has recently been demonstrated by the high prices in Greece set and controled by the few large private companies (Cartels) who set/fix prices among them to maximize profits at the expense of the Greek consumer. The Government is unable to control the prices because of the existing legislation which protects the private companies even when they are caught to fix prices. According to the existing legislation they are obliged to pay only 20% of the fine imposed on them (when they are caught on fixing prices) and the 80% of the fine they pay only if the courts force them to pay and that is after several years of trials. The government is unable to do anything to protect the consumer like in other EU states.
Additionally a recent survey of the Athens Technical University found that 8 out of 10 Gas/Petrol stations cheat the consumers by a smart chip properly positioned in the electronics of the pumps. The survey was made on petrol stations allover in Greece. Do you think that your car is consuming a lot of gas? This is the reason folks. I just returned to Switzerland from Greece. My car was averaging 15 liters for 100 km in Greece and in Switzerland 12 for the same style of driving. Mind you I noticed the same consumption in Italy as in Greece. I support privitization only if there are strong Government regulations and legislation along with frequent government uncorupted checks to protect the citizens. But how can you trust the government when last week it was revealed that 160 million euros collected last year by private citizens in Greece and from abroad aimed to help the victims of the fires somehow went to balance a black hole of the Government's financial mess.
The fact the cartels are able to fix prices advocates my view rather than what you say. If you open up the market and have a truely free market then companies can come in from abroad and start up locally without having to forge an alliance with the existing monopolies. This then means there are more than 2 or 3 companies in one market meaning that price fixing between them becomes harder. It only takes one to lower her prices and then the others have to break their cartel and follow.
I am sure I don't understand something though, as since the telecoms market has opened up and we can choose carrier I actually get better service from my telecoms company than the state encumbant gave me(quantifyable by the time it takes to respond to new line requests and customer service queries etc) and at 1/2 the price it used to be. Yet still more than 50% of Greek consumers don't support the further deregulation and opening up of the telecoms market. When the evidence is in your face and its not accepted then its certainly an up hill battle.
It is very difficult for any governement to bring in or change laws here. When they try there is always a minority protesting over such things. But we have been members of the EU for 27 years now and need to impliment the EU directives. If you look at Spain it was similar to Greece on black money economy, but has used the EU funding more wisely and benefitted from the membership more than Greece has. Also Ireland has gone from strength to strength. We have just squandered the opportunity
The government is unable to do anything to protect the consumer like in other EU states.
European Ombudsman Nikiforos Diamandouros
and his comments about how Greece is doing
The markets in Greece, must be freed from state intervention. Let the haulage companies set their own prices and they will become more efficient. This one example, from over 70 state controlled prices, would increase employment by 2-4 percent and productivity by 1.5-2.5 percent according to a recent report by the Foundation for Economic and Industrial Research (IOBE) as well as haulage rates dropping by 1.5-2.5 percent annually.
Enjoy the red wine Ton.
Basically you would get taxed in the UK for the proportion of earnings you had while in the UK. Then you would declare those earnings and the fact the tax had been paid in the UK on you Greek tax returns. You would then not be taxed again on those earnings and the Greek taxman would have his bit for the earnings in Greece.
Note; The tax year in the UK runs April 6th to April 5th the following year
In Greece the tax year runs from Jan 1st to December the 31st.
Ie you finish work in the UK in June and start work in Greece in June.
You would pay income tax to the UK for April through to June. You will get a certificate from your employer for earnings and tax paid from January to June for the Greek accountant.
You would then pay tax for income arising in Greece from June to December.
Don't worry its simple with a good accountant.
Directgov is a good website for infomation on leaving the uk
First I don't want to take the glory for the other forum you mention. Its owned by a friend and I'm just an admin to help with deleting any spam that may come along.
Second:residents permit; If you hold a passport from another European country eg UK you do not need a residents permit, you can stay in Greece as long as you want legally without one. Sometimes, however, it comes up, most often when purchasing a car. If you really want one just go to your local police station with your passport, this is where they issue them. (when I went and asked for one , they told me I didnt need it) The immigration office you mention is for non eu nationals and you will need a lot of time from what I see, the queues are extremly long.
To work, buy a house, or a car, you need a tax number. This is the easiest thing in the world to get. Just go along to your nearest tax office and they will issue you one.
You dont need a residents permit to work
Ecologically managed these developments solve all these issues and would stop the desertification in a manageable and sustainable way.
Indeed, signs of an environmental crisis are everywhere in the region. Parts of Greece, Cyprus, Italy, Portugal, Spain and Turkey are facing desertification, or the degradation of once-fertile soil, because of overbuilding, overgrazing, poor water resource management and an explosion in hothouse agriculture.
All much better than the ad-hoc building style we currently have in Greece.
The Greek government strongly supports the project, which includes six villages with traditional homes, villas and apartments as well as hotels, sports facilities, restaurants and shops on about 1 percent of the site. The rest will be set aside for trails, nature areas and three golf courses.
And maybe a self interest negative question?
Although I do agree we will have to wait and see if its truly sustainable.
“Part of the problem is that sustainability is a difficult thing to measure,” said Brian Mullis, president of Sustainable Travel International, which is working with Leading Hotels of the World to draft eco-certification guidelines for that organization’s 440 member hotels.
Why not use the high speed? Its only 5 hours so you wont need a cabin.
The cheapest is €70 or €80 round trip and business class is less than €100. If its like the ferry I took to Milos business class its worth it. Plenty of seats and a front window view with table service
hmmm....I got the prices from this link (2005?) so may well be more, but check it out
I did a cabin to an island near Naxos. Never again. we booked 4 beds (for 2 of us) so paid double (at our travel agents advise) so we could get a cabin together. when we got there they wouldn't let us have a cabin together. so i ended up sharing a cabin with a smoker I went to see my wife and she was alone. so i sneaked into her cabin and didn't sleep properly all night. It would of been more comfortable finding a couple of chairs and crashing on them. Its simply not worth the extra in my experience. That was an 11 hour ferry journey
DEH price list
From Athens airport take the bus number X93 (right outside the arrival doors) to Kifissos Intercity bus terminal. get a ticket from the kiosk.
Kifissos Intercity bus terminal Athens - Kalamata
06:00, 07:30, 08:45, 10:30 (express), 11:30, 12:30, 14:00, 15:30, 16:30 (express), 17:30, 19:00, 20:30 (except Saturday) 21:30 (only Saturday), 22:00 (except Saturday)
express takes about 3 hours and regular 4 hours.
Confirm those times though I am not sure how old the timetable is;
KTEL of Athens
Drakontos & Pappou Streets 10442 ATHENS , GREECE
Tel.: +30 210 5124910,1,4, 5151367
The other option is a taxi of course
I can understand that it is a very complex issue and I'm not asking for you to explain them but can I ask you this..?
If a person from another EU country inherited a property in Crete would they be restricted to complying with Greek laws/rules/regulations or can they ask for the laws of inheritance which apply in their own country to be used instead?
I know it is your job and I'm not asking for information etc just a yes or no would suffice, if you don't mind that is.
In Greece, it is the location of the property and not the nationality or permanent residence of the owner which determines how property will be distributed after the owner's death. It is the same in France and the United Kingdom and many other countries in Europe.
What I believe most ex pats do is to have an English will for their UK assets and a Greek will for their Greek assets. You really should see a lawyer about the Greek inheritance rules as they are different to the UK for example; in Greece, the children and surviving spouse are always entitled to a portion of the inheritance, no matter what the will states. Whereas in England, you are free to dispose of your estate as you wish.
*I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. It is just a summary of my research into the matter.