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#14987 Happy New Year

Posted by Assim on 05 January 2009 - 03:53 PM in Explore Crete

And a happy new year from war torn Athens.

#14934 Which Anna

Posted by Assim on 10 December 2008 - 04:46 PM in Explore Crete

I think only Maria's have a married and unmarried name day separately.

#14787 The Three Villages

Posted by Assim on 02 October 2008 - 02:33 PM in Explore Crete


Check out this architecture
I would love to build one of them in Greece B)

#14717 Buying A Car When Living In Crete

Posted by Assim on 04 September 2008 - 01:39 PM in Living in Crete

I bought my Motorbike over from the UK and re-registered it. The cost depends on the new value of the vehicle. As for the complexity, I can't help you there I just got my lawyer to sort it out.

It cost me 1,200€ and the bikes worth about 12,000€ (the equvilent new models are about 25'000€) so it worked out at about 5% of the price of a new one or 10% of its insured value. For me that was cheaper than selling it and trying to find something simular in Greece.

#14613 Spam

Posted by Assim on 15 August 2008 - 06:48 PM in Explore Crete

Now i'm jealous, I didn't get one <_<

#14255 Economy Politics Et Al

Posted by Assim on 27 May 2008 - 12:04 PM in Explore Crete

I wanted to answer you Ton and didn't want to go off topic in the other thread, so I started a new one. Also this way Wim and others don't have to read politics if they don't want to.

Well said Wim. Additionally I would like to add that Asim's economic scenario does not work in Greece. This has recently been demonstrated by the high prices in Greece set and controled by the few large private companies (Cartels) who set/fix prices among them to maximize profits at the expense of the Greek consumer. The Government is unable to control the prices because of the existing legislation which protects the private companies even when they are caught to fix prices. According to the existing legislation they are obliged to pay only 20% of the fine imposed on them (when they are caught on fixing prices) and the 80% of the fine they pay only if the courts force them to pay and that is after several years of trials. The government is unable to do anything to protect the consumer like in other EU states.
Additionally a recent survey of the Athens Technical University found that 8 out of 10 Gas/Petrol stations cheat the consumers by a smart chip properly positioned in the electronics of the pumps. The survey was made on petrol stations allover in Greece. Do you think that your car is consuming a lot of gas? This is the reason folks. I just returned to Switzerland from Greece. My car was averaging 15 liters for 100 km in Greece and in Switzerland 12 for the same style of driving. Mind you I noticed the same consumption in Italy as in Greece. I support privitization only if there are strong Government regulations and legislation along with frequent government uncorupted checks to protect the citizens. But how can you trust the government when last week it was revealed that 160 million euros collected last year by private citizens in Greece and from abroad aimed to help the victims of the fires somehow went to balance a black hole of the Government's financial mess.

Enjoy biggrin.gif

The fact the cartels are able to fix prices advocates my view rather than what you say. If you open up the market and have a truely free market then companies can come in from abroad and start up locally without having to forge an alliance with the existing monopolies. This then means there are more than 2 or 3 companies in one market meaning that price fixing between them becomes harder. It only takes one to lower her prices and then the others have to break their cartel and follow.

I am sure I don't understand something though, as since the telecoms market has opened up and we can choose carrier I actually get better service from my telecoms company than the state encumbant gave me(quantifyable by the time it takes to respond to new line requests and customer service queries etc) and at 1/2 the price it used to be. Yet still more than 50% of Greek consumers don't support the further deregulation and opening up of the telecoms market. When the evidence is in your face and its not accepted then its certainly an up hill battle.

The government is unable to do anything to protect the consumer like in other EU states.

It is very difficult for any governement to bring in or change laws here. When they try there is always a minority protesting over such things. But we have been members of the EU for 27 years now and need to impliment the EU directives. If you look at Spain it was similar to Greece on black money economy, but has used the EU funding more wisely and benefitted from the membership more than Greece has. Also Ireland has gone from strength to strength. We have just squandered the opportunity :lol:

European Ombudsman Nikiforos Diamandouros
and his comments about how Greece is doing

#14252 Containerharbour In Timbaki, Part 2

Posted by Assim on 27 May 2008 - 10:47 AM in Explore Crete

its all about politics :lol:

#14248 Containerharbour In Timbaki, Part 2

Posted by Assim on 27 May 2008 - 09:47 AM in Explore Crete

Sadly Greece has missed the boat - again. I don't just mean the potential port in Crete, but the existing ports. These could have taken more ships and created more employment prospects in the ports and the support businesses around the area. We have the lowest wages in Europe and the highest cost of living. Feta cheese is made in Greece, and the most expensive place to buy it is Greece. The economy and its growth is stiffled by archaic systems of price protection and state controlling prices. We are constantly held to hostage, as a nation, by the minority. The port strikes have demostrated to potential customers that it would be better to look outside Greece and ship thier stuff there. Whilst on the outside this is probably a good thing for the Greek enviroment, attitudes and policies need to changes so that we can grow our tourism to replace the lost economic growth the ports would of helped substain.

The markets in Greece, must be freed from state intervention. Let the haulage companies set their own prices and they will become more efficient. This one example, from over 70 state controlled prices, would increase employment by 2-4 percent and productivity by 1.5-2.5 percent according to a recent report by the Foundation for Economic and Industrial Research (IOBE) as well as haulage rates dropping by 1.5-2.5 percent annually.

Enjoy the red wine Ton. :lol:

#14199 Greek Words Translation

Posted by Assim on 22 May 2008 - 01:41 PM in Explore Crete

Does it have an Greeklish-English dictionary? And what's it like at translating Greek if you forget the tonos?

#14186 Greek Words Translation

Posted by Assim on 21 May 2008 - 03:47 PM in Explore Crete

The translator I find best is the google translator, but it wont translate Greeklish, so isn't any good for the phrase you are posting here

#14097 Lyrics For Erotokritos

Posted by Assim on 13 May 2008 - 01:16 AM in Cretan and Greek Music



#13952 Residency Permit

Posted by Assim on 27 April 2008 - 03:34 PM in Living in Crete

The double taxation agreement would come into effect. You would need an accountant to deal with it. You need an accountant in Greece anyway as it makes the tax returns easier.

Basically you would get taxed in the UK for the proportion of earnings you had while in the UK. Then you would declare those earnings and the fact the tax had been paid in the UK on you Greek tax returns. You would then not be taxed again on those earnings and the Greek taxman would have his bit for the earnings in Greece.

Note; The tax year in the UK runs April 6th to April 5th the following year
In Greece the tax year runs from Jan 1st to December the 31st.

Ie you finish work in the UK in June and start work in Greece in June.
You would pay income tax to the UK for April through to June. You will get a certificate from your employer for earnings and tax paid from January to June for the Greek accountant.
You would then pay tax for income arising in Greece from June to December.

Don't worry its simple with a good accountant.

Directgov is a good website for infomation on leaving the uk

#13928 Residency Permit

Posted by Assim on 23 April 2008 - 10:39 PM in Living in Crete

Hi Em,

First I don't want to take the glory for the other forum you mention. Its owned by a friend and I'm just an admin to help with deleting any spam that may come along.

Second:residents permit; If you hold a passport from another European country eg UK you do not need a residents permit, you can stay in Greece as long as you want legally without one. Sometimes, however, it comes up, most often when purchasing a car. If you really want one just go to your local police station with your passport, this is where they issue them. (when I went and asked for one , they told me I didnt need it) The immigration office you mention is for non eu nationals and you will need a lot of time from what I see, the queues are extremly long.

To work, buy a house, or a car, you need a tax number. This is the easiest thing in the world to get. Just go along to your nearest tax office and they will issue you one.
You dont need a residents permit to work

#13615 Golf Courses

Posted by Assim on 24 March 2008 - 09:53 AM in Explore Crete

Well if it's the church selling the land you can be assured the Greek government will give permission for any project. :(

#13576 Golf Courses

Posted by Assim on 19 March 2008 - 01:44 PM in Explore Crete

Wim, can you explain to me where that article discusses the negative impact of these types of development? All I could see was positives. eg

Indeed, signs of an environmental crisis are everywhere in the region. Parts of Greece, Cyprus, Italy, Portugal, Spain and Turkey are facing desertification, or the degradation of once-fertile soil, because of overbuilding, overgrazing, poor water resource management and an explosion in hothouse agriculture.

Ecologically managed these developments solve all these issues and would stop the desertification in a manageable and sustainable way.

The Greek government strongly supports the project, which includes six villages with traditional homes, villas and apartments as well as hotels, sports facilities, restaurants and shops on about 1 percent of the site. The rest will be set aside for trails, nature areas and three golf courses.

All much better than the ad-hoc building style we currently have in Greece.

And maybe a self interest negative question?

“Part of the problem is that sustainability is a difficult thing to measure,” said Brian Mullis, president of Sustainable Travel International, which is working with Leading Hotels of the World to draft eco-certification guidelines for that organization’s 440 member hotels.

Although I do agree we will have to wait and see if its truly sustainable.

#13560 Golf Courses

Posted by Assim on 18 March 2008 - 12:54 PM in Explore Crete

If you have all this development controlled and also an environmental policy, instead of people building a 200 sqM house every 4 strema, then it has to be better for the environment.

#13537 Electricity Again...

Posted by Assim on 15 March 2008 - 10:25 PM in Living in Crete

If you put the solar water heater on the roof, 6th floor roof. I assume you have a pipe down to your apartment? And will it stay hot enough from 6th floor to 2nd floor?

#13527 Ferry To Crete

Posted by Assim on 14 March 2008 - 11:52 PM in Explore Crete

Emma , if i remember right you are in Athens at the moment?

Why not use the high speed? Its only 5 hours so you wont need a cabin.
The cheapest is €70 or €80 round trip and business class is less than €100. If its like the ferry I took to Milos business class its worth it. Plenty of seats and a front window view with table service ;)

hmmm....I got the prices from this link (2005?) so may well be more, but check it out ;)

I did a cabin to an island near Naxos. Never again. we booked 4 beds (for 2 of us) so paid double (at our travel agents advise) so we could get a cabin together. when we got there they wouldn't let us have a cabin together. so i ended up sharing a cabin with a smoker :lol: I went to see my wife and she was alone. so i sneaked into her cabin and didn't sleep properly all night. It would of been more comfortable finding a couple of chairs and crashing on them. Its simply not worth the extra in my experience. That was an 11 hour ferry journey

#13523 Electricity Again...

Posted by Assim on 14 March 2008 - 04:47 PM in Living in Crete

The bills do indeed come bi-monthly. 1 read, the next estimated, the next read, next estimated and so on. My last bi-monthly bill was €160. the reading was 1799 units. That is for an apartment 129sqm. The only extravagance is, we heat water with electric, but I think we have normal usage besides that. this bill has no heating costs or air condition costs as they weren't used during that period. (no pool)

DEH price list
DEH website

#13436 Travel Suggestions., Athens Kalamata Crete

Posted by Assim on 06 March 2008 - 02:17 PM in Explore Crete

I think the best option is going to be bus.

From Athens airport take the bus number X93 (right outside the arrival doors) to Kifissos Intercity bus terminal. get a ticket from the kiosk.

Kifissos Intercity bus terminal Athens - Kalamata
06:00, 07:30, 08:45, 10:30 (express), 11:30, 12:30, 14:00, 15:30, 16:30 (express), 17:30, 19:00, 20:30 (except Saturday) 21:30 (only Saturday), 22:00 (except Saturday)

express takes about 3 hours and regular 4 hours.

Confirm those times though I am not sure how old the timetable is;
KTEL of Athens
Drakontos & Pappou Streets 10442 ATHENS , GREECE
Tel.: +30 210 5124910,1,4, 5151367

The other option is a taxi of course

#13277 Earthquake Off Kalamata

Posted by Assim on 15 February 2008 - 10:54 AM in Explore Crete

Noticed in our office in Athens. Well the first one, it shook the building for quite a long time.

#13160 Property Market

Posted by Assim on 07 February 2008 - 11:04 AM in Explore Crete


I can understand that it is a very complex issue and I'm not asking for you to explain them but can I ask you this..?

If a person from another EU country inherited a property in Crete would they be restricted to complying with Greek laws/rules/regulations or can they ask for the laws of inheritance which apply in their own country to be used instead?

I know it is your job and I'm not asking for information etc just a yes or no would suffice, if you don't mind that is.

In Greece, it is the location of the property and not the nationality or permanent residence of the owner which determines how property will be distributed after the owner's death. It is the same in France and the United Kingdom and many other countries in Europe.

What I believe most ex pats do is to have an English will for their UK assets and a Greek will for their Greek assets. You really should see a lawyer about the Greek inheritance rules as they are different to the UK for example; in Greece, the children and surviving spouse are always entitled to a portion of the inheritance, no matter what the will states. Whereas in England, you are free to dispose of your estate as you wish.

*I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. It is just a summary of my research into the matter.

#13131 The Evil That Is Goats

Posted by Assim on 05 February 2008 - 12:40 PM in Explore Crete

We were out in the countryside one day with a friend who had just arrived in Greece. As we walked along the footpath she stopped and bent down , picking something up. She put the something in her mouth and declared; "These olives are nice". A quick lookup to the blue sky confirmed that there were no olive trees where we were walking. The next look was downwards to see the 'olives'. Needless to say they weren't olives and the subject of this thread should enlighten you as to what she was eating, without me needing to say more.

#13114 Archbishop Christodoulos Dies

Posted by Assim on 04 February 2008 - 01:43 PM in Explore Crete

Tim picking up on what you said about the deceased being disinterred. Its common here (Greece) now to dig up the remains after only 3 years. A ceremony is held when this is done, and I have been told can be a little distressing when the body has not fully decayed. I'm not sure if the 3 years has a religious connotation or if the ritual has come out of necessity.

#13092 Property Market

Posted by Assim on 02 February 2008 - 08:16 PM in Explore Crete

The Greek market in general, moves slow. Its not unusual for it to take a year to sell a house.